an illness?

My sister in law: “Manic depression is an illness. Depression is
not, it is a symptom.”
Your thoughts on this please.
Thanks

3 Responses to “an illness?”

  1. meadows_19 Says:

    In a message dated 2/25/2005 8:40:59 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
    book_snail@… writes:
    My sister in law: “Manic depression is an illness. Depression is
    not, it is a symptom.”
    Your thoughts on this please.
    Thanks
    I have to disagree with this statement. I strongly believe that depression
    is an illness as well.It is an imbalance in serotonin levels, just as manic
    depression is. What would depression be symptomatic of? Grief, perhaps, if it is
    situational depression. But depression, without a known external cause, is
    an illness, most definitely.

  2. Brandi Madden Says:

    Pardon my bluntness, but your sister-in-law is an idiot, or at best,
    grossly misinformed. The medical community does not even use the term
    “manic depression.” Bi-polar disorder is in the ballpark of what she
    is referring to and it is only one of many kinds of depressive
    disorders that affect nearly 20 million people in the United States.
    25% of women and 10% of men in the U.S. will suffer a depressive
    disorder (a disease) at sometime during their lives.
    While depression can be a cause of other disorders and can be caused
    by other medical conditions. depression is not a symptom: it is a
    disorder.
    The follow material is quoted from Dr. Allen Price’s book, “All About
    Depression.” If your sister-in-law wants to express medical opinions,
    she should get a degree or at least read the current literature. As
    the saying goes: “It is better to be silent and thought a fool than
    to speak and remove all doubt.”
    What is Depression?
    Clinical depression is more than just the “blues,” being “down in the
    dumps,” or experiencing temporary feelings of sadness we all have from
    time to time in our lives. It is a serious condition that affects a
    person’s mind and body. It impacts all aspects of everyday life
    including eating, sleeping, working, relationships, and how a person
    thinks about himself/herself. People who are clinically depressed
    cannot simply will themselves to feel better or just “snap out of it.”
    If they do not receive appropriate treatment their symptoms can
    continue for weeks, months, or years.
    The good news is that very effective treatments are available to help
    those who are depressed. However, only about one-third of those who
    are depressed actually receive treatment. This is unfortunate since
    upwards of 80-90% of those who do seek treatment can feel better
    within just a few weeks. Many people do not seek treatment for
    depression for a variety of reasons. Some believe that depression is
    the result of a personal weakness or character flaw. This is simply
    not true. Like diabetes, heart disease, or any other medical
    condition, clinical depression is an illness that should be treated by
    a mental health professional or physician. Another reason why many
    people do not seek help for depression is that they simply do not
    recognize the signs or symptoms that something may be wrong.
    Depression affects approximately 19 million Americans, or 9.5% of the
    population in any given one-year period. At some point in their lives,
    10%-25% of women and 5%-12% of men will likely become clinically
    depressed. In fact, it affects so many people that it is often
    referred to as the “common cold” of mental illness. It is estimated
    that depression exacts an economic cost of over $30 billion each year,
    but the cost of human suffering cannot be measured. Depression not
    only causes suffering to those who are depressed, but it also causes
    great difficulty for their family and friends who often do not know
    how to help.
    Types of Depression
    Major Depressive Disorder
    This illness impairs a person’s ability to work, sleep, eat, and
    function as he or she normally would. It keeps people from enjoying
    activities that were once pleasurable, and causes them to think about
    themselves and the world in negative ways. Major depression is often
    disabling and may occur several times in a person’s lifetime.
    Dysthymic Disorder
    A milder yet more enduring type of major depression. People with
    dysthymia may appear to be chronically mildly depressed to the point
    that it seems to be a part of their personality. When a person finally
    seeks treatment for dysthymia, it is not uncommon that he/she has
    struggled with this condition for a number of years.
    Bipolar Disorder
    Also known as manic-depression or manic-depressive disorder. This
    condition is characterized by mood that alternates between periods of
    depression and periods of elation and excitable behavior known as
    mania (see symptoms below). For people who have bipolar disorder, the
    depressions can be severe and the mania can seriously impair one’s
    normal judgment. When manic, a person is prone towards reckless and
    inappropriate behavior such as engaging in wild spending sprees or
    having promiscuous sex. He or she may not be able to realize the harm
    of his/her behavior and may even lose touch with reality.
    Cyclothymic Disorder
    A milder yet more enduring type of bipolar disorder. A person’s mood
    alternates between a less severe mania (known as hypomania) and a less
    severe depression.
    Mood Disorder Due to a General Medical Condition
    Depression may be caused or precipitated by a known or unknown
    physical medical condition such as hypothyroidism.
    Substance-Induced Mood Disorder
    Depression may be caused or precipitated by the use or abuse of
    substances such as drugs, alcohol, medications, or toxins.
    (For more information go to Diagnosis: Substance-Induced…)
    Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD)
    This condition affects people during specific times or seasons of the
    year. During the winter months individuals feel depressed and
    lethargic, but during other months their moods may be normal.
    Postpartum Depression
    A rare form of depression occurring in women within approximately one
    week to six months after giving birth to a child.
    Premenstrual Dysphoric Disorder
    This is an uncommon type of depression affecting a small percentage of
    menstruating women. It is a cyclical condition in which women may feel
    depressed and irritable for one or two weeks before their menstrual
    period each month.
    Symptoms of Depression
    People who are depressed or manic may not experience all of the
    following symptoms. Some will have many symptoms, others will have
    just a few. The severity of the symptoms may also be different for
    every person and even vary over time. If you are experiencing some of
    these symptoms or if you have questions about whether you may be
    depressed or manic, you should consult with your physician or a
    qualified mental health professional. If you or someone you know is
    considering suicide, or has made plans to do so, you should seek the
    help of a mental health professional or physician immediately.
    Sadness, anxiety, or “empty” feelings
    Decreased energy, fatigue, being “slowed down”
    Loss of interest or pleasure in activities that were once enjoyed,
    including sex
    Insomnia, oversleeping, or waking much earlier than usual
    Loss of weight or appetite, or overeating and weight gain
    Feelings of hopelessness and pessimism
    Feelings of helplessness, guilt, and worthlessness
    Thoughts of death or suicide, or suicide attempts
    Difficulty concentrating, making decisions, or remembering
    Restlessness, irritability or excessive crying
    Chronic aches and pains or physical problems that do not respond to treatment
    Symptoms of Mania
    Abnormal or excessive elation
    Unusual irritability
    Decreased need for sleep
    Grandiose notions
    Increased talking
    Racing thoughts
    Increased sexual desire
    Markedly increased energy
    Poor judgment
    Inappropriate social behavior
    source: National Institute of Health Publication No. 97-4266 and 99-3561
    Causes of Depression
    Unfortunately, it is not fully known what exactly causes clinical
    depression. There are numerous theories about causes such as
    biological and genetic factors, environmental influences, and
    childhood or developmental events. However, it is generally believed
    that clinical depression is most often caused by the influence of more
    than just one or two factors. For instance, a person whose mother had
    recurrent major depression may have inherited a vulnerability to
    developing clinical depression (genetic influence). This combined with
    how the person thinks about him- or herself (psychological influence)
    in response to the stress of going through a divorce (environmental
    influence), may put him or her at a greater risk for developing
    depression than someone else who does not have such influences.
    The causes of clinical depression are likely to be different for
    different people. Sometimes a depressive episode can appear to come
    out of nowhere at a time when everything seems to be going fine. Other
    times, depression may be directly related to a significant event in
    our lives such as losing a loved one, experiencing trauma, or battling
    a chronic illness.
    The “Causes” section of this site describes what is known or theorized
    about the causes of clinical depression. Information is grouped within
    categories: Biological Causes, Genetic Causes, Environmental Causes,
    Psychological Causes, Medical Illness, and Other Causes.
    Risk Factors for Depression
    Related to the discussion of the causes of clinical depression is
    something called, “risk factors.” Essentially, we are all at risk for
    developing a depressive illness. People of all ages, races, and social
    class can become clinically depressed. No one is completely immune to
    this condition. However, it is important to know that the more common
    illnesses of major depression and bipolar disorder do tend to affect
    some groups of individuals more so than others. Some features of these
    groups, when associated with the development of a depressive illness,
    are known as “risk factors.”
    Please remember that no one is predestined to develop clinical
    depression. However, it can be very important to be aware of risk
    factors so that those of us who may be vulnerable can educate
    ourselves, be attentive to warning signs, and take steps towards
    recognizing and preventing this illness.
    Risk Factors For Major Depression-
    Gender: In the United States, women are about as twice as likely as
    men to be diagnosed and treated for major depression. Approximately
    20-25% of women and 12% of men will experience a serious depression at
    least once in their lifetimes. Among children, depression appears to
    occur in equal numbers of girls and boys. However, as girls reach
    adolescence, they tend to become more depressed than boys do. This
    gender difference continues into older age.
    There are several theories as to why more women than men are diagnosed
    and treated for depression:
    Women may be more likely than men to seek treatment. They may be more
    willing to accept that they have emotional symptoms of depressed mood
    and feelings of worthlessness or hopelessness.
    Men may be less willing to acknowledge their emotional symptoms and
    more apt to suppress their depression through the use of alcohol or
    other substances. In such cases depression can be “masked,” or viewed
    only as alcohol or drug dependency/abuse rather than as clinical
    depression.
    Women may tend to be under more stress than men. In today’s American
    society women often have to manage a variety of conflicting roles.
    They have many responsibilities and full schedules at home and work.
    Women may be more prone to depression because of the possible effects
    of hormones. Women have frequent changes in their hormone levels, from
    their monthly menstrual cycles, to the time during and after
    pregnancy, to menopause. Some women develop a depressive illness
    around these events.
    Marital factors: Women who are unhappily married, divorced, or
    separated, have high rates of major depression. The rates are lower
    for those who are happily married.
    Age: While clinical depression usually occurs for the first time when
    a person is between the ages of 20 and 50, people over the age of
    65may be especially vulnerable.
    Previous episode: If you have had major depression once before, your
    chances of developing it again increase. According to some estimates,
    approximately one-half of those who have developed depression will
    experience it again.
    Heredity: People who have relatives who have had clinical depression
    have a greater chance of developing it themselves. Also, having a
    close relative with bipolar disorder may increase a person’s chances
    of developing major depression.
    Risk Factors For Bipolar Disorder-
    Bipolar disorder is diagnosed in equal numbers of men and women. It is
    not known for sure why major depression seems to affect more women
    than men while mania affects both equally. One reason may be that
    mania, with its very conspicuous symptoms, is much more easily
    recognized than depression. Depression may also go unrecognized in
    men.
    Previous episode: If you have had major mania once before, your
    chances increase of developing it again. Most of those who have had an
    episode of mania once will have a second.
    Heredity: People who have relatives who have had bipolar disorder have
    a greater chance of developing it themselves. Immediate relatives
    (parents, siblings, children)of those with bipolar disorder are 8 to
    18 times more likely to develop the condition than those not related
    to people with bipolar disorder. Having a close relative with bipolar
    disorder may also increase a person’s chances of developing major
    depression.
    Depression and…
    Childhood Difficulties
    People who become clinically depressed have generally experienced more
    severe difficulties in childhood than those who do not become
    depressed. These difficulties may include sexual or physical abuse, a
    turbulent upbringing, separation from a parent, or mental illness in a
    parent. Some researchers believe that a problematic childhood may
    trigger an early-onset of depression (first episode occurs before age
    20). The most significant event that seems to be related to clinical
    depression is separation from or death of a parent before the age of
    11.
    It is not clear just how a difficult childhood can result in adult
    depression, but there are a few theories. One theory suggests that
    children who experience great unhappiness growing up have a harder
    time adjusting to changes in their life such as adolescence and the
    new roles of adulthood. Another theory is that these children may
    either lack appropriate emotional development or they become
    emotionally damaged making them vulnerable to developing depression.
    Experiencing great difficulties as children, these individuals may be
    more likely to have low self-esteem, feel powerless, and become
    dependent on others to make them feel good about themselves. These
    kinds of traits may increase a person’s susceptibility to depression.
    Still another theory has to do with the developing brain of a young
    child. Early experiences may affect the development of the limbic
    system in the brain. If a child experiences great emotional distress,
    this could affect his or her ability to adapt to new environments and
    regulate emotions.
    During World War II there were a number of children who were separated
    from their mothers. It was noticed that these children became
    depressed after going through several stages of grief. First, the
    children cried strenuously for their mothers. Then the children became
    very agitated. Afterwards, they became despondent and still. Lastly,
    they became very withdrawn. This severe reaction to losing their
    mothers is known as anaclitic depression. This same type of reaction
    to separation has been observed in studies with monkeys. In these
    studies, the monkeys secreted higher amounts of cortisol (a stress
    hormone) during the earlier stages of grief. It was found that the
    more cortisol that was released into the blood, the more intense the
    monkey’s depression became later on. In approximately one-half of all
    depressed humans there are high levels of cortisol in the blood.
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    Grief, Loss of a Loved One
    Content is coming soon!. Read more…
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    Medical Conditions
    We all are vulnerable to depression, but people with some serious or
    chronic diseases may be at greater risk. It may also be true that
    those who are depressed could be at greater risk for developing
    certain medical conditions. Treatment for depression can help people
    manage symptoms of both diseases and thereby improve the overall
    quality of their lives.
    Symptoms of depression may also signify the presence of a medical
    condition, which once treated may alleviate the depressive symptoms. A
    thorough medical evaluation by a physician is always an important part
    of the diagnostic process. Read more…
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    Postpartum Depression
    Postpartum depression is not really a separate mood disorder from
    major depression or bipolar disorder. The word, “postpartum” is a
    specifier used as additional diagnostic information to describe the
    onset or occurrence of the depressive episode associated with major
    depression or bipolar disorder.
    Postpartum onset describes an uncommon depressive episode that begins
    within four weeks of giving birth to a child and may affect up to 10%
    of new mothers. It is very different than the “baby blues” that women
    can experience usually 3-7 days after delivery. Many women with
    postpartum depression may experience great anxiety, panic attacks,
    spontaneous crying, difficulty sleeping, and a lack of interest in
    their new child. A woman’s mood may fluctuate and seem inconsistent,
    and there may even be the presence of psychotic features (delusions,
    hallucinations). If this is the case, a woman should receive immediate
    medical attention and hospitalization may be necessary. Whether or not
    psychotic features are present, a woman may have suicidal thoughts,
    continuous thoughts about violence towards her child, a difficulty
    with concentration, and she may feel and appear to be quite agitated.
    Read more…
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    Stress
    There appears to be a complex relationship among stressful situations,
    our mind and body’s reaction to stress, and the onset of clinical
    depression. It is clear that some people develop depression after a
    stressful event in their lives. Events such as the death of a loved
    one, the loss of a job, or the end of a relationship are often
    negative and traumatic and cause great stress for many people. Stress
    can also occur as the result of a more positive event such as getting
    married, moving to a new city, or starting a new job. It is not
    uncommon for either positive or negative events to become a crisis
    that precedes the development of clinical depression. Read more…
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    Trauma
    Many times, people who become depressed report that a single traumatic
    event happened just prior to their becoming depressed. Painful
    experiences such as the death of a loved one, divorce, a medical
    illness, or losing everything in a natural disaster may be so
    impactful as to trigger clinical depression. Events like these take
    away a sense of control and cause great emotional upheaval. Some
    traumatic events may cause more distress for one person than for
    another. For instance, a man who loses his wife to death may be more
    prone to becoming clinically depressed than a woman who loses her
    husband. This may be because the loss of a wife can lead to additional
    losses for a man. He might lose contact with children and other family
    members. He may also become more emotionally distressed and isolated
    if he has difficulty reaching out to others. Women who lose their
    husbands may be more willing to seek out emotional support.
    A person’s recovery from depression may also be affected by traumatic
    events. The more stress and difficulty a person experiences, the
    longer a recovery from depression may take. For example, imagine a
    depressed woman in an unhappy marriage who finally decides to file for
    divorce. If the process becomes prolonged with disputes over finances
    or custody of the children then her recovery from depression could be
    slowed down greatly. On the other hand, if the same woman perceived
    the divorce as something positive in her life, perhaps she was leaving
    an abusive relationship, then she might have a more speedy recovery.
    Workplace
    Depression affects all aspects of life, including the workplace. Read
    about The Effects of Depression in the Workplace and What to Do When
    an Employee is Depressed: A Guide for Supervisors.

  3. Robyn Ethyl Says:

    Thank you Mike :o) you always know just the right words …..
    sweet dreams,
    Cathrine.

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